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Thursday, January 24, 2013

Questions About Theism


So my favorite youtuber MrRepzion makes the distinction between Theism and Deism by saying that Deists believe that a god created the universe and Theists believe that that god still intervenes today. The generic internet agrees. The Abrahamic monotheistic religions—Christianity, Judaism and Islam—are all theist (hence monotheistic).

My experience growing up has been with Christians so I'm going to talk about why I don't get theism through a lens of Christianity.


1) God sometimes intervenes?

So in Christianity, there are good-bad distinctions. We know that God considers punishments of misfortunes, like plagues and/or death. And sometimes, if you're a good Christian, God makes sure these things don't happen to you.

Lookin' out for ya

For example, God tests Job's faith by making terrible things befall him, and then rewards him when his faith remains strong (correct me if I'm wrong). In short, God rewards biblical characters for being good people by stopping bad things from happening to them. 

Or with a reward...

In 2011 there was a drought in East Africa* during which children and their parents had to trek across the desert in search of water. Theists might say that God ended their suffering by causing rain to fall. But what of all the people who died in this draught? Certainly, some of the casualties must have been infants.

"Just have faith... They died for a reason." But God makes it clear in the Bible that suffering is a punishment... Why is the baby being punished? And what divine purpose could the death of an infant possibly serve?

"They weren't a believer." It's a baby...

"Overpopulation!" The Bible definitely doesn't have any examples of God being that utilitarian. He's always rewarding good deeds and punishing bad ones... It's about cause and effect in almost every story.

"It's going to grow up to be Hitler." There were a lot of babies in that drought. At least one of them was not Hitler.

Someone please explain this mentality of an intervening god to me.

2) God is responsible for everything?

A) This doesn't make sense because of the reasons above... If he's responsible for things like drought and Hitler, I'm no fan.

B) Why does God create things, get mad and punish them? Because of the Garden of Eden? Then doesn't that mean he's not all-powerful?

C) Why shouldn't we believe that humans are responsible for some things? Don't we have free wil? And shouldn't we take credit for the good things that we do?

MrRepzion's take on it:

Lol his face

Forever correctable,

—AKB

*I know this example reinforces some exhausting stereotypes, but it's the example I always think of when I talk about this subject.


2 comments:

  1. So true. So so so so so so so so so true. This has irritated me for SO long and I'm glad someone finally said something about it.

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